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h86m 11 ( +1 | -1 )
Doubled pawns Doubled pawns are usually troublesome.

Are there many circumstances under which they can be made use of?
cairo 41 ( +1 | -1 )
Speaking of doublepawns, I have this game ongoing, with a rather unusual pawn-structure.

board #783820

Mind you, since this is a live game, please NO comments and any evalution of the game, about who is standing best etc.

Best wishes
Cairo
themadphantom 17 ( +1 | -1 )
I can't stand doubled pawns Even though people always trick me into having them. I know that they sometimes have advantages, but I don't know what they are.
clemens 17 ( +1 | -1 )
I think doubled pawns can be an advantage if they give you increased control over the centre. Also, you always get an open file with doubled pawns.
jean_marc 11 ( +1 | -1 )
Check this out:
www.chessplayer.com/doubled.htm
lordnguyenvo 57 ( +1 | -1 )
sometimes double pawns can be an advantage if it controls the important squares.say your pawns were c3 and c4 and e4,the opponent's were c5 and e5(number of pawns are equal,i just name the central ones),in this position white have a perfect outpost square for his knight at d5,but black doesnt due to the "weak"c3 pawn so white have a clear advantage.
and like clemens said,the open(half-open)file can be use to attack back at your opponent's pawn.
but if you have double pawns at the endgame,you are pretty much losing.
mettlesome 11 ( +1 | -1 )
Well... I think that doubled pawns are often fine, but doubled ISOLATED pawns can be a bit of a headache....

Mettlesome
tulkos 11 ( +1 | -1 )
this is a weird doubled pawn formation--- or will be soon. board #838336
brobishkin 74 ( +1 | -1 )
Doubled pawns... Most amatuer players think when you have a doubled pawn you most definately have a weakness... But there is another side to these double pawn curses most amateurs don't understand... When an amateur gets these so called doubled pawns, he usually panics because he is not aware of the "dynamic" potential inherent with this pawn structure... The simple truth is, it's impossible to label anything in chess as always being weak...

The negative side of doubled pawns is it reduces their flexibility and at times, leaves one or both vulnerable to attack...

The positive side is the doubling pawns lead to an extra open file for your Rooks and increases square control...

Bro...
superblunder 24 ( +1 | -1 )
Why did you sign your post: Bro.. when it is clearly obvious that you just ripped off Silman's book word for word without giving him any credit.

It is ok to quote players, but not to have any original ideas and then to pretend someone else's idea are your own is low.
brobishkin 40 ( +1 | -1 )
Let me get on thing clear here... When questions are asked in a class about a certain subject, where do you go for the answer?... A book... Or if you want to know how to fix a certain problem on a vehicle, where do you go for instruction on how to diagnose and fix the vehicle properly?... A repair manual...

Why should explanations on certain chess positions be any different... Can it be stated any clearer then the book?... I didn't take it word for word but the discription of the weaknesses are crystal clear...

Bro...
brobishkin 50 ( +1 | -1 )
By the way... I always sign my posts... What do you have against it?...

Opps... I even signed my last post... Maybe I riped off that from some book on explanations...

Where exactly did I state that I actually made this knowledge up on my own accord?... I was simply stating common chess knowledge of doubled pawns... And guess where I got most if mot all my chess knowledge from?... Chess Books... Low and behold, have I just shown you a mystery?...

Bro...

Opps... I've signed another one...
superblunder 12 ( +1 | -1 )
well.... you could have at least given the author credit for his words, it is common courtesy when quoting someone.
caldazar 142 ( +1 | -1 )
First off, you did copy Silman's work; changing a word or two here and there isn't enough to let you off the hook; it's still plagiarism.

"If you ask an amateur player what he thinks of when you say hanging, doubled, backward, or isolated pawns, the most likely response will be 'a weakness.' Unfortunately, most amateurs don't really know how to go after pawn weaknesses, much preferring the thrill of a King-hunt. The other side of the story follows the same pattern. If the amateur gets these so called weaknesses, he usually panics because he is not aware of the dynamic potential inherent in all these structures. The simple truth is, it's impossible to label anything in chess as always being weak."

-Jeremy Silman, "The Amateur's Mind," 2nd Edition/Expanded, p107.

Second, by merely writing, you are claiming the thoughts are your own. That's why people bother to quote others at all. You don't make a point of mentioning when something is original; you make a point of mentioning when something is someone else's idea. Quoting is not just a matter of courtesy. Even though of course the basic idea behind doubled pawns is well-known, Silman spent time organizing his thoughts into what he felt was a clear and concise explanation, and by not giving him credit, you're stealing his efforts and his work. If you don't want to quote, then you're supposed to take the time and effort to do the work and formulate your own explanation.
desertfox 42 ( +1 | -1 )
Plagiarism is a bad thing. Give credit to the orginal author. Every serious educated person does it, Bro., so why do you think you are exempt from it?
I also have a game going on with icetrap, in which he has two doubled pawns. Trouble is Use user_id and bd=game-number are hieroglyfics and not codes. I can't make a link with orange letters.
icetrap bd#843363
desertfox 56 ( +1 | -1 )
Plagiarism is a bad thing. Give credit to the orginal author. Every serious educated person does it, Bro., so why do you think you are exempt from it?
I also have a game going on with icetrap, in which he has two doubled pawns. Trouble is Use user_id and bd=game-number are hieroglyphics and not codes. I can't make a link with orange letters.
Anyway, the game no. is #843363
Anyone can explain to me this orange link business with an example, maybe I will understand it then.

Desertfox
clemens 30 ( +1 | -1 )
desertfox What's the problem with the board links? It's really very easy: you type bd=???????, where the ????? is of course the board number. Putting a real example is difficult since the parser will of course convert it to a link, but, for instance:
bd_1234567
where you have to use a = instead of a _, for said reasons.
lordnguyenvo 9 ( +1 | -1 )
you type the name like this: id=(the name of the the player)
and for the board: bd=(board number)
desertfox 9 ( +1 | -1 )
icetrap bd= 843363
desertfox 9 ( +1 | -1 )
icetrap bd= 843363
desertfox 17 ( +1 | -1 )
icetrap:board #843363
desertfox 79 ( +1 | -1 )
Finally I got it, thanks a lot purple:board #840356 is anothe example where a double pawn is an asset. My opponent had the pair of bishops to compensate for a pawn less. He wrongly exchanged is bishop for one of my knights, thinking that if a creates a double pawns for me while doing it, he does good. He was wrong, doubling the pawns opened a file for my rook which finally could enter the game. He gained back his pawn but my pieces are zeroing in on his king.

icetrap:board=843363 is an opposite example. Two double pawns in the opponent's camp are a burden and I intend to use it as much as I can.

Desertfox
desertfox 86 ( +1 | -1 )
Finally I got it, thanks a lot purple:board #840356 is anothe example where a double pawn is an asset. My opponent had the pair of bishops to compensate for a pawn less. He wrongly exchanged is bishop for one of my knights, thinking that if a creates a double pawns for me while doing it, he does good. He was wrong, doubling the pawns opened a file for my rook which finally could enter the game. He gained back his pawn but my pieces are zeroing in on his king.

icetrap:board #843363 is an opposite example. Two double pawns in the opponent's camp are a burden and I intend to use it as much as I can.

Desertfox