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triangulator 14 ( +1 | -1 )
world champion will someone please tell me what is up with this world champion thing and who is tecnically the world ch..????

thanks a lot, Jason
vinnyroo2002 112 ( +1 | -1 )
I'll take a shot at this Kramnik is the World Champion due to defeating Kasparov in a 2001 match. Kramnik had been Kasparov's second for a while now, and the match was only natural since Kramnik was ranked in the top 5 and it kind of had an interesting story to have the champion's second play the champion. Kasparov still has a higher rating though, and is considered by a majority to still be the best player in the world. In my opinion, it is ridiculous to consider one man better just because he has a higher rating even though they lost to the person rated below them. In my mind, Kramnik should be considered the best because he beat the champ and is called the World Champ. I'm not exactly sure how the rating system works, but they should definitely change it if the second highest rated player in the world beat the first, and doesn't move up to number 1. I guess it is like other sports though, in that one win over a better player doesn't necessarily make you a better player. And even though Kramnik/Kasparov played 15 games, maybe they should have another match to cement Kramnik's status.
triangulator 8 ( +1 | -1 )
isnt there a 3rd? i thought there were 3 people who couldnt deside who was chp..- i might be wong
atrifix 65 ( +1 | -1 )
No, just 2 Ponomariov is the FIDE World champion. Kasparov is not world champion of any organization at all, but he is the highest rated in the world (by about 30 points over Kramnik). He has had more success than anyone, at any rate. Kramnik is the Einstein TV world champion...for more information look at Seirawan's articles. They should be at www.chesscafe.com.

All this has led to chaos within the chess politique, so next year there will be a reunification match: the winner of the Dortmund tournament will go on to play Kramnik, and the winner of that match will play the winner of the Kasparov-Ponomariov match. The final winner will be universally recognized as world champion.
death_by_pawns 3 ( +1 | -1 )
Tch. We all know I win. End of story. You all suck.
triangulator 7 ( +1 | -1 )
yes yes the story of the year a 1500 GK rated becomes world champion
edmaster 104 ( +1 | -1 )
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP A JOKE! ALL OFFICIAL CHESS TOURNAMENTS SHOULD BE
PLAYED OVER ONE CHESSBOARD!ONLY(#1)
OFFICIAL WORLD CHESS CHAMPION!PLAYED
ACCORDINGLY WITH REAL SLOW PROFESSIONAL
CHESS TIME CONTROLS SUCH AS THE FIRST TIME
CONTROL:40/2 SECOND TIME CONTROL:16/1 AND
THERE AFTER AND CONSISTING OF A 24-GAME
CHESS MATCH!LETS GET THIS WHO IS WORLD
CHESS CHAMPION SETTLED!
LETS GET
KASPAROV
FISCHER
PONOMARIOV
KRAMNIK
ANAND
THE TOP 10 PLAYERS AND PLAY AGAINST EACH
OTHER A 24-GAME ROUND ROBIN WORLD CHESS
MATCH CHAMPIONSHIP THAT IS EACH PLAYER
PLAYS EACH OTHER 24-GAMES EACH WITH
HARDCORE TIME CONTROLS AND LETS CALL IT THE
ULTIMATE LAST HUMAN WORLD CHESS
CHAMPIONSHIP OF THE 21ST CENTURY.
ALL THE CHESS
ORGANIZATIONS,FEDERATIONS,CORPORATIONS,
COUNTRIES,MILLIONARES,BILLIONARES AROUND THE
WORLD SPONSER IT WITH A PURSE OF 250 MILLION
OR MORE!MAYBE 3 BILLION!THAT WOULD BE SOME
WORLD CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP!WINNER TAKES ALL!




triangulator 5 ( +1 | -1 )
lol not a bad idea edmaster ill chip in with 50$ to see that
brunetti 14 ( +1 | -1 )
Edmaster Do you really think that Fischer at age 60 has a chance to score some wins in 24 game matches against those players?

Alex
certainratio 78 ( +1 | -1 )
kramnik Kramnik is the Einstein TV world champion

Yes, but Kramnik is also considered
Classical World Chess Champion, in a line
of descendents 14 long (13? 15?). He took
the crown from Kasparov, who took it from
Karpov, who inherited from Fischer, etc.
I think this means more than Ponomariov's
crown. Ponomariov is undoubtedly one
of the World's top players, and he may yet
snatch the crown from Kramnik or some future
World Champion in that line, but right now he
is only the FIDE World Champion. He won the
crown in a knockout tournament with faster
time controls than usual classical chess (and
Kramnik and Kasparov were not in that
tournament). But it is still a great achievement
worthy of respect.

By the way, vinnyroo, Kramnik defeated Kasparov
for the crown in 2000, not 2001.

certainratio 31 ( +1 | -1 )
Fischer Fischer was a great champion in his day, and
he is arguably the greatest player in history,
but there is no way he could be competitive
in a match against today's top players.
If he came out of retirement and started playing
tournaments, I'd guess he'd be able to achieve
a ranking of about 25-50 on the ratings list
if he put his mind to it. After all, he is
about 60 years old and way out of practice.
atrifix 5 ( +1 | -1 )
Fischer is still #3 on the ratings list, last I checked :)
certainratio 13 ( +1 | -1 )
i know i saw that too.
but my point is that i doubt he could hold
that position if he started playing rated
tournaments again.
vinnyroo2002 72 ( +1 | -1 )
Sure he's old, but You can never be sure how much he's been studying. I know that due to his age that his mind won't be nearly as sharp, and he probably won't be able to calculate as far anymore, or be as good a positional player, but the fact remains, that he is in my mind the greatest player ever, and could still hold his own against some of the elite. I don't think the game has changed that drastically in the last 30 years, that he couldn't at least be competitive. I would still put money on the fact that their are only a handful of people in the world that could beat Fischer in a 24 game match, and I wouldn't be surprised if Fischer could become World Champion again, if and this is a big if, he has been studying consistantly for the last 20-25 years.
edmaster 3 ( +1 | -1 )
LOOK AT AGES OF BOTTVINIK,RESHEVSKY,KORCHNOI
calmrolfe 38 ( +1 | -1 )
Well... If you all insist that Fischer should be included in the next World Championship series then I DEMAND that Capablanca and Alekhine be given a chance too as they were great champions also.

O.K. there might be one or two practical problems in arranging this, but, hey ! if you can find a way to include Fischer then accommodating the other two should be relatively easy.

:)

Kind regards,

Cal
edmaster 24 ( +1 | -1 )
HAVE YOU NOT HEARD! CAPABLANCA AND ALEKHINE ARE DEAD!FISCHER IS ALIVE AND WELL SOMEWHERE OUT-THERE?PREPARING TO ASCEND TO THE GREAT CHESSBOARD
THE THE GODS ONLY HAVE ACCESS TO!HE WILL MAKE HIS MOVE AND GREAT MOVER OF THE HEAVENS KNOWS WHEN!
edmaster 9 ( +1 | -1 )
OR CALL THIS WORLD CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP? THE 21ST CENTURY SUPER LEGENDS ULTIMATE GRANDMASTER WORLD CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP!
atrifix 57 ( +1 | -1 )
There is no way Fischer would survive 240 games in succession. I find it difficult to believe he would even survive 24. He might collapse after the 20th game.

Sure, great chess players can always come back long past their prime and achieve some great results (e.g. Emmanuel Lasker in Moscow 1935, Fischer-Spassky 1992). But practically, Fischer is in no position to play a world championship match. He probably wouldn't even agree to the regulations. He might play for a Fischerandom world championship, though.
certainratio 75 ( +1 | -1 )
still great Ranked 25-50 is still great.
Maybe he could make it to about 20 around
where Polgar and Karpov are. There are
other old players doing well, like Korchnoi,
but none are in the top 10-15.
Don't get me wrong: Fischer has always been
my favorite player, and I wouldn't argue
with anyone claiming him to have been the
greatest ever, but I doubt he could make a
good showing in a top-level match today.
He played well in 1992 in his rematch with
Spassky, but he didn't play near the calibre
of Kasparov or Kramnik (or for that matter,
Anand, Topalov, Adams, Ponomariov, etc.)

Even if he has been studying in seclusion,
he hasn't been actively playing against the
top players. I think this would hurt his
chances.