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blunders ♡ 37 ( +1 | -1 )
denial of draws hmm i suppose the answer is probably ,just have patiencebut you see i am playing this game and i am anxious to get it over with. i believe it is a draw and have offered to draw a few imes already and my opponent does not accept. perhaps someone else can be more positive than i am.besides what do you do when your partner doesnt accept a draw you are sure of?
blunders ♡ 11 ( +1 | -1 )
oh board #370049 if you are willing to check it out
luresau ♡ 9 ( +1 | -1 )
Re:Denial of draws I would not accept a draw in that position if i were white. It should be an easy win IMO
luresau ♡ 7 ( +1 | -1 )
re:denial of draws I was a bit too quick to say easy win but white does have winning chances
chuckventimiglia ♡ 6 ( +1 | -1 )
If both sides..... make no blunders I believe it will Draw. Chuck
cairo ♡ 15 ( +1 | -1 )
You should not commenting or annotate on ongoing games!

Best wishes
thegreatpolgar ♡ 25 ( +1 | -1 )
Btw Blunders, it's considered rude/impolite to keep repeating a draw offer! Re: what do you do when your partner doesnt accept a draw you are sure of? Play on or resign :o))
brunetti ♡ 59 ( +1 | -1 )
Well, you believe it's a draw, and maybe it's a draw, but what you believe is not necessarily what your opponent believes! And having a pawn plus and an active position he is fully justificated to play on. I could say which result will occur at master level; two masters will probably stop to play here and accept the draw/loss result. But at a lower level anything may happen, and when a player chose blunders as his nickname... his opponent may play on even being a Queen down :)


chuckventimiglia ♡ 8 ( +1 | -1 )
I did not realize... that was an on-going game. If it is then
Cairo is absolutely correct. Chuck
refutor ♡ 18 ( +1 | -1 )
agreed, the greatpolgar (i gave you a plus) if fact it's considered rude to offer a draw twice in a row in a game...e.g. if your opponent refuses the draw, it's rude to offer another one...let the opponent offer
jeffz_2002 ♡ 14 ( +1 | -1 )
Offering twice... ... /might/ be OK if there were a number of moves (at least 5? 10? who knows) between the offers.


Oh, who am I kidding. I know not of what I speak.
triangulator ♡ 26 ( +1 | -1 )
i agree all i will say is that i wouldnt accept a draw but this thread really shouldnt be here if you ask us to annotate it later after the game i am sure many people would like to help-but you have to wait until the game is over

victord ♡ 13 ( +1 | -1 )
draw .. I offer once. If declined, I will play it out unless my opponet offers, at which time I consider his/her offer. That's all.
triangulator ♡ 3 ( +1 | -1 )
good point that is how it should be done
kahju ♡ 17 ( +1 | -1 )
pawn The stronger side offer draw... on general, surely opponent now sees ur frustration to get this over with.. go for the point with foam on mouthsides jejee
blunders ♡ 48 ( +1 | -1 )
thank yous i apologize i did realize that would be unfair for me to post up an ongoing game. i have offered a draw repeatedly but only after some odd moves. I suppose i was just looking for some justification to keep playing myself because if it is a lost position i will resign. I felt it was a draw and wanted to hear someone elses opinion.thank you all and i will return for the end result if anyone is interested.

Mr. Blunders

p.s. thats it brunetti im changing my name to checkmate ! :-)
blunders ♡ 14 ( +1 | -1 )
ok i was wrong. now that i am done if someone will please tell me where i might have gone wrong in my attempt to draw my game?
parrvert ♡ 34 ( +1 | -1 )
blunders I'm not sure it was possible for you to gain a draw in the latter stages of the game. I thought the game was already lost when you originally posted, although it was worth trying for a draw. Your rating is higher than mine so you probably shouldn't listen to me but I would look back earlier in the game to see where you went wrong.
atrifix ♡ 6 ( +1 | -1 )
Blunders. 64... Bb2?? was awful...64... Bh8 is necessary to stop the pawn from queening.
triangulator ♡ 3 ( +1 | -1 )
yup your right atrifix
brunetti ♡ 31 ( +1 | -1 )
Draw! At the time of first post the position was draw.

White missed the win earlier, for example:
35.Nxc5+ wins
37.Ng5 wins
39.Ne6 probably wins; after 39.Ra4 it should be draw.
After 42...c1=Q it's a draw.

As atrifix pointed out, after 64...Bh8 White can't win.

atrifix ♡ 21 ( +1 | -1 )
Note that white *could* win, only in the case of a rook's pawn, if his king could reach e8 or f8. Since the black king prevents white from reaching these squares, it's drawn.
blunders ♡ 16 ( +1 | -1 )
Thank you very much! Yes I apologize again for sharing this game when it was still being played. I appreciate all your advice.
keep up the brilliant work!

Mr. Blunders