triangulator
♡ 14 ( +1 | -1 ) world championwill someone please tell me what is up with this world champion thing and who is tecnically the world ch..????
vinnyroo2002
♡ 112 ( +1 | -1 ) I'll take a shot at thisKramnik is the World Champion due to defeating Kasparov in a 2001 match. Kramnik had been Kasparov's second for a while now, and the match was only natural since Kramnik was ranked in the top 5 and it kind of had an interesting story to have the champion's second play the champion. Kasparov still has a higher rating though, and is considered by a majority to still be the best player in the world. In my opinion, it is ridiculous to consider one man better just because he has a higher rating even though they lost to the person rated below them. In my mind, Kramnik should be considered the best because he beat the champ and is called the World Champ. I'm not exactly sure how the rating system works, but they should definitely change it if the second highest rated player in the world beat the first, and doesn't move up to number 1. I guess it is like other sports though, in that one win over a better player doesn't necessarily make you a better player. And even though Kramnik/Kasparov played 15 games, maybe they should have another match to cement Kramnik's status.
atrifix
♡ 65 ( +1 | -1 ) No, just 2Ponomariov is the FIDE World champion. Kasparov is not world champion of any organization at all, but he is the highest rated in the world (by about 30 points over Kramnik). He has had more success than anyone, at any rate. Kramnik is the Einstein TV world champion...for more information look at Seirawan's articles. They should be at www.chesscafe.com.
All this has led to chaos within the chess politique, so next year there will be a reunification match: the winner of the Dortmund tournament will go on to play Kramnik, and the winner of that match will play the winner of the Kasparov-Ponomariov match. The final winner will be universally recognized as world champion.
edmaster
♡ 104 ( +1 | -1 ) WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP A JOKE!ALL OFFICIAL CHESS TOURNAMENTS SHOULD BE PLAYED OVER ONE CHESSBOARD!ONLY(#1) OFFICIAL WORLD CHESS CHAMPION!PLAYED ACCORDINGLY WITH REAL SLOW PROFESSIONAL CHESS TIME CONTROLS SUCH AS THE FIRST TIME CONTROL:40/2 SECOND TIME CONTROL:16/1 AND THERE AFTER AND CONSISTING OF A 24-GAME CHESS MATCH!LETS GET THIS WHO IS WORLD CHESS CHAMPION SETTLED! LETS GET KASPAROV FISCHER PONOMARIOV KRAMNIK ANAND THE TOP 10 PLAYERS AND PLAY AGAINST EACH OTHER A 24-GAME ROUND ROBIN WORLD CHESS MATCH CHAMPIONSHIP THAT IS EACH PLAYER PLAYS EACH OTHER 24-GAMES EACH WITH HARDCORE TIME CONTROLS AND LETS CALL IT THE ULTIMATE LAST HUMAN WORLD CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP OF THE 21ST CENTURY. ALL THE CHESS ORGANIZATIONS,FEDERATIONS,CORPORATIONS, COUNTRIES,MILLIONARES,BILLIONARES AROUND THE WORLD SPONSER IT WITH A PURSE OF 250 MILLION OR MORE!MAYBE 3 BILLION!THAT WOULD BE SOME WORLD CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP!WINNER TAKES ALL!
brunetti
♡ 14 ( +1 | -1 ) EdmasterDo you really think that Fischer at age 60 has a chance to score some wins in 24 game matches against those players?
Alex
certainratio
♡ 78 ( +1 | -1 ) kramnikKramnik is the Einstein TV world champion
Yes, but Kramnik is also considered Classical World Chess Champion, in a line of descendents 14 long (13? 15?). He took the crown from Kasparov, who took it from Karpov, who inherited from Fischer, etc. I think this means more than Ponomariov's crown. Ponomariov is undoubtedly one of the World's top players, and he may yet snatch the crown from Kramnik or some future World Champion in that line, but right now he is only the FIDE World Champion. He won the crown in a knockout tournament with faster time controls than usual classical chess (and Kramnik and Kasparov were not in that tournament). But it is still a great achievement worthy of respect.
By the way, vinnyroo, Kramnik defeated Kasparov for the crown in 2000, not 2001.
certainratio
♡ 31 ( +1 | -1 ) FischerFischer was a great champion in his day, and he is arguably the greatest player in history, but there is no way he could be competitive in a match against today's top players. If he came out of retirement and started playing tournaments, I'd guess he'd be able to achieve a ranking of about 25-50 on the ratings list if he put his mind to it. After all, he is about 60 years old and way out of practice.
atrifix
♡ 5 ( +1 | -1 ) Fischeris still #3 on the ratings list, last I checked :)
certainratio
♡ 13 ( +1 | -1 ) i knowi saw that too. but my point is that i doubt he could hold that position if he started playing rated tournaments again.
vinnyroo2002
♡ 72 ( +1 | -1 ) Sure he's old, butYou can never be sure how much he's been studying. I know that due to his age that his mind won't be nearly as sharp, and he probably won't be able to calculate as far anymore, or be as good a positional player, but the fact remains, that he is in my mind the greatest player ever, and could still hold his own against some of the elite. I don't think the game has changed that drastically in the last 30 years, that he couldn't at least be competitive. I would still put money on the fact that their are only a handful of people in the world that could beat Fischer in a 24 game match, and I wouldn't be surprised if Fischer could become World Champion again, if and this is a big if, he has been studying consistantly for the last 20-25 years.
calmrolfe
♡ 38 ( +1 | -1 ) Well...If you all insist that Fischer should be included in the next World Championship series then I DEMAND that Capablanca and Alekhine be given a chance too as they were great champions also.
O.K. there might be one or two practical problems in arranging this, but, hey ! if you can find a way to include Fischer then accommodating the other two should be relatively easy.
:)
Kind regards,
Cal
edmaster
♡ 24 ( +1 | -1 ) HAVE YOU NOT HEARD!CAPABLANCA AND ALEKHINE ARE DEAD!FISCHER IS ALIVE AND WELL SOMEWHERE OUT-THERE?PREPARING TO ASCEND TO THE GREAT CHESSBOARD THE THE GODS ONLY HAVE ACCESS TO!HE WILL MAKE HIS MOVE AND GREAT MOVER OF THE HEAVENS KNOWS WHEN!
edmaster
♡ 9 ( +1 | -1 ) OR CALL THIS WORLD CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP?THE 21ST CENTURY SUPER LEGENDS ULTIMATE GRANDMASTER WORLD CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP!
atrifix
♡ 57 ( +1 | -1 ) There is no way Fischer would survive 240 games in succession. I find it difficult to believe he would even survive 24. He might collapse after the 20th game.
Sure, great chess players can always come back long past their prime and achieve some great results (e.g. Emmanuel Lasker in Moscow 1935, Fischer-Spassky 1992). But practically, Fischer is in no position to play a world championship match. He probably wouldn't even agree to the regulations. He might play for a Fischerandom world championship, though.
certainratio
♡ 75 ( +1 | -1 ) still greatRanked 25-50 is still great. Maybe he could make it to about 20 around where Polgar and Karpov are. There are other old players doing well, like Korchnoi, but none are in the top 10-15. Don't get me wrong: Fischer has always been my favorite player, and I wouldn't argue with anyone claiming him to have been the greatest ever, but I doubt he could make a good showing in a top-level match today. He played well in 1992 in his rematch with Spassky, but he didn't play near the calibre of Kasparov or Kramnik (or for that matter, Anand, Topalov, Adams, Ponomariov, etc.)
Even if he has been studying in seclusion, he hasn't been actively playing against the top players. I think this would hurt his chances.