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jbmac
♡ 37 ( +1 | -1 )
Sicilian Najdorf This is what i play as black. After 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cd 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5, at this point i used to play 6...e6, but recently i have been trying 6...e5. I would like to know what you people who play this line(and play it well/successfuly)think of 6...e5. Is it playable? Or does it give white more of an advantage than when playing 6...e6?
Thanks in advance.
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anaxagoras
♡ 30 ( +1 | -1 )
I don't play this line, so that might mean I have no right to answer... but what are you doing playing the sicilian nadjorf? 5... a6 is an *expert's* move and is almost an error when played by mere mortals like you and I because it is only a shade better than making no move at all.
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sly_lonewolf
♡ 32 ( +1 | -1 )
anaxagoras... Can you (or anyone else reading this thread) explain more about 5...a6, 5...g6, 5...Nc6, 5...Bd7, or any other continuation playable for black at this point? I've played a few different options but I choose according to what I feel like trying...I don't really know about the theories behind those move.
Thanks!
Rgds,
Sly
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philaretus
♡ 6 ( +1 | -1 )
The idea of 5...a6 in the variation being discussed is to prevent the annoying Nb5 after e6 or e5.
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smolensk
♡ 40 ( +1 | -1 )
the idea of a6 is to stop pieces to get acces to b5 If 5.--e5 at once 6.Bb5+ is strong.
6:--e5 is almost an error. Black loses control over d5 so white can plant a knight there. Compare it with the variation. 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Ndb5 d6 6.Bf4 e5 7.Be3 Nf6 8.Bg5 when white spends three moves with his bishop to get a similar position, yet he is still happy with his position.
Play 6.--e6 instead. An interesting line for black is 7.f4 Nc6
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brunetti
♡ 10 ( +1 | -1 )
6...e5 is wrong. After 7.Bxf6 Qxf6 8.Nd5 Qd8 9.Nf5 Bxf5 10.exf5 Be7 11.c4 White stands clearly better.
Alex
ccmcacollister
♡ 10 ( +1 | -1 )
The idea of 5...a6 is to induce Bobby Fischer to play 6.h3 !?.......:) and thereby giving us something to call the Fischer Variation.
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cairo
♡ 32 ( +1 | -1 )
Looking thru present theory it appears to me, that the only right answer to 5.Bg5 is e6!
And you can hope as black, that white will follow with 6.f4, so you have the chance of playing the poison pawn variation with 6.... Qb6!
Best wishes
Cairo
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jbmac
cairo
♡ 41 ( +1 | -1 )
Try to play thru some recent games jbmac with the poison pawn variation, both on Masterlevel as well as here among the GK-players. I think you will find a quite interesting trend, but judge for yourself!
Best wishes
Cairo
caldazar
♡ 156 ( +1 | -1 )
When I first looked at 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cd 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e5, my initial thoughts too were that White should have an easy time of it. But after doing some analysis, my feeling is that while White does indeed gain a comfortable advantage, Black's position is pretty sturdy and rather difficult to crack. White probably does get more play than he should when compared to 6... e6, but it looks to me like ...e5 should be at least playable, even if Black does have a bit of trouble drumming up play.
After 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cd 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e5, I feel the critical test is 7. Nf5. After 7.Bxf6 Qxf6 8.Nd5 Qd8 9.Nf5, Black is a little better off because he doesn't necessarily have to play 9... Bxf5 (instead ...g6, Nfe3 for example; White has good play but Black's position is rather tough to break down). After 7. Nf5, Black has a bit of a problem. As brunetti gives, if 7... Bxf5, White should have a very comfortable advantage. But if not 7... Bxf5, then Black's dark-bishop and kingside in general are a bit paralyzed, so he needs to find something else to do and there aren't a lot of options. He can just develop with 7... Nc6 (trying for ...Nd4 or perhaps ...b5 / ...Rb8 and ...b5 if favorable), but after 8. Bc4 (or perhaps even just 8. Be2), it's not clear to me how long Black can keep going before he has to concede ...Bxf5. Of course White has the maneuver Bxf6 Qxf6, Nd5 Qd8 any time he wants with a comfortable advantage, but it seems to me Black suffers more the longer White can keep the g5-bishop and f5-knight and force Black to make further concessions in order to resolve the kingside pressure.
paulberg
♡ 37 ( +1 | -1 )
e6 or e5? Against the Najdorf 6 Bg5 your best bet is e6. Statistically speaking 6..e6 keeps things pretty even between white and black. However, for white to play 6 Bg5 isn't even a strong play against the Najdorf. White would be better off playing 6 Be3 (the English Attack) lending to your 6..e5 very suitably.
Just an opinion from a Sicilian player.
pauL
basti1981
♡ 48 ( +1 | -1 )
I prefer e6 too I also prefer the e6 lines because of two reasons, the first reasons was given quite often, e6 is still covering d5 and preventing a Night "hopping" in there for a while the other reasons is some kind of untypical for Najdorf player, I don't regard the weak pawn on d6 as that enjoyable (even though this problem is in some lines solved after white plays at some point Nd5 and recaptures it with his pawn on e4)
and e6 seems to be the more natural move to me. ;)